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How does a male meet a female in Saudi Arabia if males and females non related have no contact with each other

We were discussing in class about how woman can only go places with a male guardian and other things about there dealing with the religious police. Males and females that are not related can not be togther so how does a male find a wife there without breaking the rules ?

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1. im pretty sure it is called a matchmaker
2. If I remember correctly, men DON'T proactively look for a wife. His mother, aunts, and sisters look for him, and when they find someone suitable then they let him know. I'm not sure how much say he has in the matter, but I think they are mostly arranged by the parents on both sides.
3. good question,wanna know too
4. The male sees a girl he likes and goes to the father to ask for her hand in marriage. He asks the neighbors and other friends of the woman's family who he likes about the woman and about her family. Then if he likes what he hears he can go and ask the father for her hand in marriage. He can come over for dinner or talk on to the phone with her but he can't be alone in the same room with the girl. They can't touch each other until marriage. Or the man's parents and the woman's parents look to their friends see if their son and daughter might make a good match and then they introduce the two together in the woman's home with her father there. In Islam it's forbidden to touch a member of the opposite sex until you are married and a woman and a man can't be alone in the same room together because Iblis(Devil) is the third person in the room. Also the woman can't go over to the male's house. It's forbidden for a woman to enter another man's house without her mahram. Men can not enter a woman's house without her husband in his home or her father if she is unmarried.
5. i believe the mates are choosen by the father of the female and stuff like that but ask your history teacher to be sure on this
6. Aaron said it best.. yes traditionally you know someone in your family.. Like your Mom, Aunt, Grandmother.. will obviously socialize with her friends and neighbors.. Someone will have a son or daughter of marrying age and they will say.. My son is hunting for a wife.. Well this Aunt, sister, Grandmother etc.. will say.. OH.. Sally over here is also hunting for a husband.. Lets get them together or ask them.. They will talk to the two kids and ask if they are interested.. If so, they can meet and talk.. if they agree, they can get engaged.. then this engagement period is where they truly bond and get to know each other (morally chaste of course, no hanky panky).. then if they find they are just not compatable.. they can break it off, go their seperate ways and no ones chastity is breached... get it?
7. wolfmuslim, Aron and mitee said it all women can go out without a male guardian and the "religious police" (as you call it) is not a problem in here. if you want to chat more about these topics just email me..
8. Blue Tooth is common. Older women often hand a little piece of paper with there phone number to random men at markets(Met a lot of women that way). The other thing is to go to private and desert parties where males and females get together and meet and do other haraam things
9. 1.Your answer lies their on the Roads and Streets of most of the countries where women go places without male guardians (Sex & Crime against women follows). And if you really want to know the importance of a Guardian for women as well as the importance of PURDAH (Veil), you contact a muslim woman of your country (if she is converted to Islam, it will be much better) who practices PURDAH, your mind will be cleared (if it is not) with all wrong impressions about What Islam, The Religion, has for women and you can study Islam very closely. 2.Very much the same what "Aaron S" said but they are allowed (according to Islam) to see each other once before the relationship is finalised and even if the woman said she doesn't want to marry that man or not like the man (any valid reason which can be his looks, his character or whatever) she cannot be forced to marry that particular man.
10. like any big country, you got all types of lifestyles: I will list from most conservative to least: - purely arranged marriage, both see each other on the day of engagement. (very rare now, i don't think anyone married this way) - arranged marriage: family has a lot of influence, both see each other once before engagement. then few to several times after engagement and before marriage. (i think this is still represent certain segment of society). - traditional marriage (not really arranged): the family arrange that both meet in a family atmosphere. Get to discuss, and know each others, then engaged. Engagement is not final, it can be broken without a problem or hassel. (this represent biggest part of society today). - traditional but more liberal: same as before, but really both families allow big deal of freedom in terms of seeing each other, talking by phone unlimited times, going out. they can arrange for a time to get to know each other before engagement. (certain segment esepcially in big cities do so) - more liberal marriages: girl or boy approach the family telling them, i like this girl, or i am in love with this girl. i wanna marry him/her. they meet each other over the net, friends, flirting, colleges outside saudi, anything you would imagine. they might know each other hardly by phone, or they might used to date few times aweek. (this segment is growing so much) irregardless of anything you hear about relegious police or so, dating is not a difficult task at all, and almost every couple who wanna date, do so. The only stoppage, is their personal values, not the legal structure. it's interesting to realize, that many of the 'love story' marriages didn't succeed. i think many times both engage in a gf/bf type of relationship and get married. where in reality both weren't ready to take the marriage responsibilities.
11. some break the rules and have the contact they want ..like moi .. and some (only boys ) ask their mothers 2 look for certain qualities in a girl then if she finds him a good match they arrange the marriage ..
12. I love it when some discuss us, with so much confidence, without knowing anything. They'd "discuss" myths by imagining what its like. Nothing more nothing less. Who said that women can only go to places with a male guardian? Actually, I, a Saudi guy, cant enter many malls at most times without a female because they'd allow "families only" I go to the east coast and try to rent a boat, the guy goes, sorry, but, families only. And its all for so-called protection so single guys wouldnt bother them with flirting etc. Yeah theres things that women do need and dont have, just as it is with men. And theres always more to do to better things, with men and women alike. So whatever shortcomings we have ( as any society does ) is not necessarily gender related. It may and may not be, depending on the issue. As for marriage read what Mintee said.
13. hi
14. It is what Ameen says,,,,apart from the fact that the last 'case' represents a very small minority.... why marriages from this minority usually break?? because the families have a chip on their shoulder regarding such unions and try to sabotage them if the occasion arises....especially if they wanted they boy to marry his cousin and he refused....... about women not needing a guardian....yes true! but only in big cities.... go to places like Buraydah,,,,,go to Dawadmi.....there if the man takes his wife with him shopping too often (more than 5 times a year!!) the people would say,,,,,oh!!! he has no respect taking her out all the time for 'all to see'- they are a bad family!!!...even if she is totally covered.